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Seriously Google ??? Wow, think I'll go back to Opera and close Google account out completely, enough is enough, holy...........good idea on the Great Circle Map, forgot about that one, think I'll work on trying to convert as mentioned above, MapQuest. Always did like their maps anyway. I also got an email from google, wow..........unreal, see ya in duh air, I'll let ya know how I make out with the conversion for mapquest Nabeel, thanks Jim