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Looks like Waleed (Mansoor) is at it again :rolleyes: Despite his assurances that Bird Virtual was the only VA he was operating, he's opened yet another new one, this time with a gobful of name to it:

Virtual Pakistan International Airline Simulation

www.vpiasim.waleeddc.com

Mansoor (or Waleed), can I ask why you are opening so many VA's Exactly what are you hoping to achieve? I think you are being extremely stupid opening so many VAs up and then advertising them with shoddy websites. Have you never thought that the reason people aren't joining these VAs is because of your actions? What pilot in their right mind would take you or any of your VAs seriously, when you cannot be bothered to even try and set just one of these VAs up to work well. Instead, you are launching half hearted attempts, and that shines through in the websites. So, are you seriously trying to launch a VA, or are you just enjoying messing with the various websites?

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I've just found something else out about the shady Waleed (Mansoor). This latest VA he's dreamed up is a blatant rip off of an existing VA:

Mansoor's: http://www.vpiasim.waleeddc.com

The one he's ripped: http://www.vpia.org/VirtualPIA

Mansoor, by continuing carrying off like you are, your reputation is going to be terrible within the virtual flight community (it probably already is!). Why not actually do some work, spend the necessary time required to set a VA up properly, and then try it out. Even better, get some experience of actually flying with a VA. You don't seem to understand that any successful VA is only as good as it's reputation, and the reputation of it's creators.

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I've just found something else out about the shady Waleed (Mansoor). This latest VA he's dreamed up is a blatant rip off of an existing VA:

Mansoor's: http://www.vpiasim.waleeddc.com

The one he's ripped: http://www.vpia.org/VirtualPIA

Mansoor, by continuing carrying off like you are, your reputation is going to be terrible within the virtual flight community (it probably already is!). Why not actually do some work, spend the necessary time required to set a VA up properly, and then try it out. Even better, get some experience of actually flying with a VA. You don't seem to understand that any successful VA is only as good as it's reputation, and the reputation of it's creators.

http://www.vpia.org/VirtualPIA had ripped off other sites too unsure.gif

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http://www.vpia.org/VirtualPIA had ripped off other sites too unsure.gif

Dear James,

This is Ahmed Ahsen, Administrator Virtual PIA.

I'd like to take the time to respond to your post about how VPIA is ripping off other websites. (plural)

Before that, let me first start by introducing myself and the team behind the oldest, largest and best known Pakistani virtual airline around the world and then get to your reply.

I myself am a lowly repainter, you can find my work on flightsim.com and a few other flight simulation websites. In the past some of my work has also been the victim of copyright infringements, so please bear with me - its an awful reality of our world of flight simulation, that people who dont respect copyrights and other people's work keep popping up every now and then. I have dealt with my fair share as well, and would request you to bear with me as I explain myself.

Virtual PIA is Pakistan's first and only virtual airline certified as a partner by vatsim. We are now on our way to set up the Pakistan division on VATSIM.

With over 200 members and 6 years in the field - the essence of our organization is at the same time, the development of flight simulator add-on's for Pakistan and Pakistani aviation - our work is fully freeware, and featured at over 15 flight simulation websites, including the world's largest, avsim.com and flightsim.com.

Some of the bigger names in Flightsim who you may be familiar with who have worked with us on various projects include:

Mr. Edward Cox (POSKY Master Texture Specialist)

Mr. Hiroshi Igami (POSKY Programmer)

Mr. Jonathon Sze (flightsim.com)

Mr. Stephen Groom (flightsim.com)

Mr. Abdullah Rahman (flightsim.com)

Mr. Sabbir Khan (flightsim.com)

Mr. Matthew Sheil (www.hyway.com.au/747/747.html)

Mr. Chris Schnaedelbach (avsim)

Mr. Jeff Bryner (flightsim.com)

Mr. Phillip Dorn (flightsim.com)

Mr. Kenneth Hui (VATSIM)

Mr. William Woo (VATSIM ASIA Director)

Mr. Deepan Mehta (VATSIM ASIA Director)

Mr. Alexandros Zafiris (VFlight)

Mr. Tim Capps (avsim reviewer)

Mr. Gene Davis (avsim reviewer)

Mr. Benjamin Van Soldt (avsim reviewer)

Mr. Jason Mckee (avsim reviewer)

Enigma Simulations (FS Sound)

Project Airbus

In addition our contributions and work have earned us numerous associations with well known virtual airlines such as

Arabian VA,

KLM VA,

Cathay Virtual,

Philippine Airlines Virtual,

Virtual Turkish Airlines,

Virtual Singapore Airlines,

and Virtual Algerian Airlines.

we are also associatied with esteemed organizations such as vatsim.com, flightsim.com, avsim.com, GreekSim flight magazine, VFRreviews.com and world famous simulation magazine PC Pilot. The hard work of our dedicated pilots had made Virtual PIA the first ever Pakistani va to have been fully recognized by VATSIM as a partner, in addition to being featured on PC Pilot and numerous other simulation venues.

From airliners.net, we currently work with Konstantin Von Wedelstaedt, Irfan Caliskan, AirTeamImages, Jetpics, Omer Zekeria, Pawel Guraj, Nik French, Selzere Christophe, Ian Madigan, Damiano Gualdoni, Murtaza Sattar, Saad Asad Cheema, Florian Seibert, Akin Diler, John Ballantyne, Jorge Medina and Asuspine.

In 2010, Virtual PIA, along with Air Child VA, UNICEF, VATSIM, VATIndia, VATPoland and MKRF held an online campaign that collected over $1000 in under 5 hours, which went to the cause of people suffering from devastating floods in Pakistan. We are no fraud, we have worked our a**es of to build our organization and to work for the community.

The reason why I am mentioning all this is so that you can realise there are some 'foreigners' who arent actually sitting in caves and can do a damn well job when it comes to it.

Coming to your response about plagiarism,

The website of VPIA (www.vpia.org) has never in its six year history at any point of time ever violated anyone's copyrights, nor received notification of such. If you believe you have evidence (specifically of more than one copyright violations on vpia.org) , please refer it to me - if you dont, try for one second to appreciate what we are doing and dont shoot us down because of our names, nationality or religion.

Recently, thru PHPVMS forums, we learnt of the copying of an entire theme copyright to Mr. James Barret on our partner website, www.vatpak.net

That website was designed by an ex-member of ours, Mr. Waleed Dilawar. Claiming to be an expert in web design, he joined us to take over some of our lower priority projects, one of which is VATPAK. In a mattter of hours he produced the old template claiming it as his own, and in all honesty, I never bothered to check it which I should have - I apologize for that breach of copyrights once again. (and I already did previously in a full email explanation to your complaint ). If you still have an issue with any of our websites kindly mention it and I'll be happy to take care of it. I am currently taking full time flying lessons plus holding a job, so forgive me - I havent visited every page of my websites in the recent past, but I'd be happy to oblige in case there was any copyright issue, which to my knowledge there arent and havent ever been on the domain www.vpia.org.

Now Waleed had been removed from our group earlier, because we found that he had been using photographs from airliners.net without permission on one of our websites. Since being removed, he has rapidly opened and shut a couple of dozen virtual airlines, due to being caught again and again on phpvms forums. We have no longer got anything to do with him. I should also add he copied several of our scripts on one of his free websites and copied our name when he opened his first virtual airline after being kicked out of our organisation.

I hope that makes it clear to all visitors, readers and valued members of this forum.

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You have emailed me that exact paragraph about 3 times..

Mr. Barrett,

Gmail automatically includes the complete email chain when you press 'Reply'. My messages are written once to you, I think there may be a formatting error due to the email service. I sent you 3 individual emails in the same chain, perhaps you're still being displayed the original email I sent you.

By the way your replies to my emails also appear appended at the bottom of the message instead of at the top of it, so I think there is some sort of formatting error.

Anyhow I have mailed you again in a new message, so please do enlighten me as to where you saw the website vpia.org copying material off of websites (plural) by PM or email.

If you wish to continue this, please PM me, not in here.

Roger that have emailed you and pm'd also. Will be waiting to hear from you.

Sincerely,

Ahmed Ahsen

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Just read all of this thread! phew! but wow phpvms is encountering some serious copyright issues. and mr.waleed is not the one to blame.

because he can do it so easily thats why he is. this is the main problem with the internet. and people have to learn i can copy this but i can also ask for permission to use it or make my own. and apparently phpvms is no exception. and mr.waleed is not the only one.

so everyone keep your information safe and code aswell.

Good Luck!

We must stop plagiarism forever and mark was absolutely right "if you make a VA put all you have into it" dont make 25 vas and have 2 pilots per each and s***ty work. take 1 and make it perfect.

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because he can do it so easily thats why he is. this is the main problem with the internet. and people have to learn i can copy this but i can also ask for permission to use it or make my own. and apparently phpvms is no exception. and mr.waleed is not the only one.

so everyone keep your information safe and code aswell.

Good Luck!

We must stop plagiarism forever and mark was absolutely right "if you make a VA put all you have into it" dont make 25 vas and have 2 pilots per each and s***ty work. take 1 and make it perfect.

Now it looks like the site has been removed !

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